Ithaca Trench Gun Serial Numbers

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I have an excelent condition WW2 Ithaca Trench Gun, original blue finish, RLB and ordnance bomb marked, in the correct serial number range, everything perfect and as it should be EXCEPT, it has a winchester handguard. Any board members out there who can help out with the proper Ithaca WW2 trench handguard? Hughlong, I wonder whether the handguard was added later by a collector, or if, perhaps, it may have had the Winchester handguard installed by an in-service armorer? Can you post pictures?

Ithaca Mdl 37 Trench gun serial numbers - posted in FIREARMS & ORDNANCE: Hello fellow Military shotgun collectors, With some help from other fellow collectors I have been able to confirm that Ithaca Trench gun serial numbers do not end at serial # 61,450. They appear to end around 62,124 or thereabouts. Ithaca Gun Co. Produced a small number of Model 37 trench guns and a larger number of Model 37 riot guns and training guns. Stevens Arms Co. Delivered trench gun, riot gun and training versions of.

Thanks for posting! David Albert dalbert@sturmgewehr.com.

I have an excelent condition WW2 Ithaca Trench Gun, original blue finish, RLB and ordnance bomb marked, in the correct serial number range, everything perfect and as it should be EXCEPT, it has a winchester handguard. Any board members out there who can help out with the proper Ithaca WW2 trench handguard? Hughlong, I wonder whether the handguard was added later by a collector, or if, perhaps, it may have had the Winchester handguard installed by an in-service armorer? Workbook 7 naumova children. Can you post pictures? Thanks for posting! David Albert dalbert@sturmgewehr.com. HERE IS A QUOTE FROM OLDGUNS.COM: Ithaca Model 37 trench guns manufactured under government contract during WWII were fitted with ventilated metal handguard/bayonet adapter assemblies.

The Ithaca handguard had six rows of ventilation holes. The WWII Model 37 Ithaca trench gun was finished in commercial grade blue, including the handguard/adapter assembly and had standard sling swivels. The stock was plain and unadorned and was not stamped with an inspector's cartouche. The forend had parallel grasping grooves. The only martial markings observed on the trench guns were 'RLB' stamped on the left side of the receiver next to a small Ordnance Department flaming bomb and a small 'p' proof mark on the left side of the barrel. The 'RLB' initials were those of inspector Lt.

Bowlin, Chief of the Rochester Ordnance District. Observed trench gun serial numbers range from: #61038 to #61856. All known original WWII Model 37 trench guns have the 'RLB' marking on the left side of the receiver So 6 rows is the key. The differences are difficult to describe in words but here is a start: The area connecting the main body (barrel attachment region) is connected to the lower bayonet-lug area by a particularly-contoured metal region. In 'NASCAR' terms, the Winchester type is a long sweeping curve, the Stevens is a short straight connected to a longer straight by a relatively tight-radius curve, and the Ithaca is between those two in contour (but closer to the Stevens). The moral of the story is that you need to get Bruce Canfield's book on combat shotguns.

He has good clear closeup photos of all three types so you can see how what you have compares to the others.

See thats were my problem lies,everyone arround were i live see this gun and has told me it was a flash supp. And that could have been used for training purposes but why would you need a flash supp. For training so the skeet cant see you, LOL, now so far its starting to make sence what, you are talking about. But i wish i had some good facts on this gun were it could have been used, what the purpose of this gun was, see a few pictures, and maybe a price figure on ths gun so i know if i should take out insurance on it just in case it should ever get stolen. Hi John: I have now had time to pull my copy of Bruce Canfield's 'Combat Shotguns' book off the shelf. Canfield reports that the Ithaca M37 was made in both trench and riot gun versions. The trench gun is considered to be the scarcest of all WW2 USGI shotguns.

What you appear to have is the riot version which Canfield says came with a 22' barrel, with a few 20' guns. He goes on to say that 'Most of the WWII contract riot guns fall into the 48,000 to 51,000 serial number range.' He cautions that '.the serial number range is not as definitive as the Model 37 trench gun serial number range.'

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